An Open Blog Post to Natasha Hudson, aspiring actress and published thespian,
Can you please explain in plain and simple terms why your published poem "Kek Coklat" is a direct translation from the work of a British poet Roger McGough? At first when a huge fan of his work called me in distress, after browsing through your book in a bookstore and discovering one of her favorite poem is translated into Malay Language without citing the original poet, I was not that convinced. But when I read the McGough version and yours, the similarities is too uncanny for it to be a coincidence.
In your June 18 2007 interview with the Star, you said,
“It wasn’t easy to share my personal collection of poems with the public. It took a lot of courage to share a part of me in this book. It has many memories, personal experiences, dilemmas, sadness and hope.”
You also said,
“Even though the poems were written many years ago, it was only recently that I decided to approach a publisher after encouragement from my family and friends...”
So if you click on the picture below it will lead you to a Roger McGough poem entitled "Cake". Maybe you've read him when you were younger and the impression the poem gave you still lingers?
I don't know where this blog post would lead. It might not even be read. You might get away Scott's free. What I do know is that plagiarism is not right, and this is not the message you would want to teach to young children,
“I guess it is my way of encouraging children and adults to see poetry as something lively and entertaining, which everybody would enjoy at any time,” she enthuses.
Yours Truly,
Jannah Raffali
P/s If so happened Roger McGough is a distant cousin, whom you grew up with and share all your secret hopes and dreams, feel free to kick me in the balls, I would write an open apology blog post and eat Cake.
69 comments:
nk ajak photoshoot same2 dlm studioq....
hehe having ur cake and eat it too is a normal english punye saying la kan. but in malay the meaning is not instantly identifiable. eat eachother? hmm sure ke this is a children's poem? hehe. dah email ke ms hudson ni? hehe
Wow. That is a serious allegation. I wouldn't mind so much in a blog posts. But this is published work y'all. Where she get untung n money n such. And no credits whatsoever.
It is too much of a resemblance to be called coincidence. If its about life translated to eating choc cake and such, but each wording can be translatable to the original poem from McGough. I wouldn't mind if the ways and rhymes or whatever (I am lacking in knowledge of poems) have the same style of him, but this is something like a schoolchildren would do, directly translate from something.
Had you send an email to Ms. Hudson herself?
I can't comment further as such as you, unless there is an explanation to this. It should be interesting to know if anyone else find this out?
(Agree with Acat, And in Malay it does have a slight lewd feelings to it)
When you're writing something that alludes to an idiom, you must be able to draw a form of bond between that idiom and the context you're writing in.
Only a person who is aware of its original context may derive its desired meaning an intent i.e. you can't have it all so you bit off each others heads as I would cleanly interprets it.
Yet in this case, there's no such peribahasa in Malay and therefore this puisi loses its charm. Perhaps she could have done better by alluding to, "dengar guruh di langit, air di tempayan dicurahkan."
This is a rather popular and may serve enough context for Malay readers to relate and appreciate. Yes it's different, but you can't have your cake and eat it too.
p/s if you notice in my blog I have Roger McGough's Cake on my blog's sidebar :)
hi there..a blogger got me to check out some serious allegations here written in your site n honestly i have never heard of tht mcgough writer or read any of his poems..maybe it so happen to be wht i wrote is similar to wht he had written.n let me explain/define once more my childrens book in malay is written as short stories in so called poetic form,so they are not hundread percent poetry..its more of storytelling..only my english book is pure poetry..what i write is in a humourous & fun way..its not like im trying to educate children in an educational way..& for them to feel entertained & thts why there is illustration..tq
i think she thinks malaysian are dumb and wont read mcgough. heck. i have not heard about him either.
it's too much of a coincidence. merepek. you better send this to the papers >:)
A.
Set the date.
Acat,
Context tak betul pun, when you read the malay version out loud it doesn't make sense. Why chocolate cake? What's she's trying to say? Kek Coklat as in Forrest Gump's "Life is like a box of chocolate. You'll never know what you gonna get?
Dila,
She commented. That's her stand. Tak satisfying in my humble opinion. AltaVista?
Anabanana,
I know you love this poem, I remember you used to place this poem at your blog's sidebar. Even my roomie Syitah said bukan this poem ada dekat blog ana ke?
The truth is in the Googling.
Ms Natasha Hudson,
1998. Were you in UK reciting this poem in the presence of Roger McGough?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/190291.stm
Toughmama,
Papers? I'm not a qualified translator, degree pun tak habis lagi. I want the proper people to deal with this. Only blogging about it atas permintaan my frantic friend who's favorite poet is Roger McGough.
If something like this happened to Neil Gaiman, I would personally cari that culprit. I love you Neil!
i abhore plagiarism. if you really like someone else's work, there is always a set of ethics being prepared for us to follow--just QUOTE! it is so shameful to be renowned person and yet to make such a public mess! i learnt a great deal from this. thanks jane!
yups2 Jannah, the explanation is not satisfactory. I am still not convinced. The only way where she said she didn't plagiarize nor heard of it, if her parents had read to her that poem when she was little as thus she have those on her mind.
Hope that's the case. Also a bit ruffled on some of her explanation, especially on the education part. But whatever. To each their own opinion. Just I don't agree with her's.
I credit her however in replying so fast to this allegation.
We'll have to refrain from buying hber book and tell other people not to buy it. Word of mouth is the best form of advert - or in thsi case, sales-killer. Ms Hudson, your answer was rambling and did not address the main issue.
Another way is to contact her publisher of course and have the book pulped.
natasha - that doesn't explain a thing!!!! it isn't even a literate reply!!!!
will leave what to do in roger mcgough's hands and his lawyers
"My Passion - Plagiarism"!!!
Look at the crappy books she wrote lah, can't expect a 'writer' like that to have a literate reply...
perempuan bodoh yang mahukan populariti berlebihan.
kau paham tak natasha hudson? or you want me to translate this?
gud job jannah.
'Jadi kita makan sesama diri?'
OHH COMEE ON!
Anon@Mat Nor Kawanku,
Just Quote. We should start a revolution, a public announcement of sort. The years we had to deal with mastering the APA system my friend.
Dila,
"if her parents had read to her that poem when she was little as thus she have those on her mind". The lingering memories..that perfect 4 lines poem she can't get out of her head..each line with the similar context (though the malay one doesn't make sense because the context is foreign unless you're taking it literally. Ada term makan kek coklat yang I don't know about ke?).
Anon No2,
Word of mouth=Blogger Linking Back. Sharon Bakar asked her readers to be the judge.
http://thebookaholic.blogspot.com/2008/01/not-just-pretty-face.html
bibliobibuli,
The least she could do is draft a proper reply...with appropriate grammar...
Anon No 3,
I thought her idea was charming, pictures when she was a child, talking about being different because she's of mixed parentage. Just own up to it. Or "Just Quote".
jasmine,
I think she's not stupid. Careless? Care less about what Plagiarism is?
Siberkop,
Makan sesama sendiri. Apakah maksud bait ini? Seorang yang horny akan berkata, Huyyoo. Jom. Jom. Now baby!
If taken literally it could mean cannibalism?
ala... but i love natasha hudson. hahahaha.
saya suka makan natasha hudson.
it's not just plagiarism, it's kebodohan yg teramat sangat... c'mon la, it's so plain to see la you translate direct that poem... what the hell does the poem mean anyway??? i mean it makes sense in english, in BM it's just rubbish. and i don't think that's THE ms hugson who gave that bengong explanation...
mari makan sesama sendiri... that orgyfest looked okay in english, translated i terimagine pakcik2 berkain pelikat kejar opah. aduhh... educational lah!
Based on NH comment, perhaps she doesn't know Roger McGough writes in a 'humorous and fun way' too.
I think my Malay language is good enough to see the similarity between the two. I'm sorry but plagiat itu tetap plagiat.
Btw, this is one bad piece of direct translation.
maybe NH's part time job is translating english movie into bm (subtitle tuu) where you get "ITIK!!" for "DUCK!!" ngiahahahaha...
"kita tidak dapat makan kek coklat
jadi kita makan sesama sendiri" is classic! man you've got it! u go girll... amuse us with your originals!!
woooooo~!
btw, i'm in the mood for 'kek coklat' better get me some before i start to eat you out... eh? oops!
org macam kamu lah yg tak reti nak memberi peluang pada bangsa sendri. u own a VERY GREAT name, but y u have to make such fuss bout tis, she were like YOUNG when she first did all those. TLG la. menjatuhkan org di dunia, tak same ngan ape yg kite dpt di akhirat.. nawaitu tu masing2. GOD, get a life. write smtg more YOU, not allegates others.
well if that was pointed to me, i apologize... but i find this amusing really. i guess explaining what we see wont matter to you, tapi baiklah. saya akan bagi peluang untuk plagiarism.
some ppl dont understand somethings written in a 'humorous and fun way'.
Ini sajak plagiat aku khas untuk N.H:
Cukup Natasha
Simpan pena mu
Wahai, darah mu terlalu manis.
Puncaknya jadi idaman
Satu penipuan.
Bikin apa
Bila semua tidak kena
Bukan kerana tidak betul
Natasha, darah ku telah mendesak!
Mari kita makan sesama sendiri....
(Sebab tak dapat Kek Coklat)
Amacam, ok tak sajak aku? Bagi komen.......
im a avid poem fans and aware of her book. recently i found the book at MPH and go tru it pages.
nothing impressive or aspiring and bland.not worth buying.
miss natasha. u might wanna check out abdullah jones' collection. and probably you might want directly translate it into english for your future book?
kiddin!
Saya cukup jelik bila ada yang tiba-tiba berlagak pandai dunia akhirat, ingin jadi hero kepada si mangsa sedangkan si mangsa yang sebenarnya menyakiti. Encik/Cik tanpa nama, cuba teliti ayat awak. Benarkah awak ingin bangsa kita selama-lamanya menumpang atas kebijaksanaan orang lain?
Kalau ditanya niat saya dalam hal ini, hanya inginkan kebenaran. Mengapa perlu mengambil hak orang lain sebegitu rupa? Adakah kejujuran hanya ungkapan yang sedap didengar namun tidak memberikan apa-apa makna lagi? Jika kita biarkan orang lain memusingkan kebenaran semata-mata ingin menyelamatkan dirinya dari jatuh dan seelok-eloknya ayuh kita kembali ke zaman purba tatkala kita buta huruf dan buta minda.
En/Cik tanpa nama, saya yakin bangsa kita mampu;
Jangan kasar dengan bahasa. Bahasa tak pernah salah.
Si ketam tahu merasa.
Tapi jalan mesti ubah.
Another 2 plagariasm made by the utmost infamous Ms Natasha...
The Little Turtle (Vachel Lindsay)
There was a little turtle.
He lived in a box.
He swam in a puddle.
He climbed on the rocks.
He snapped at a mosquito.
He snapped at a flea.
He snapped at a minnow.
And he snapped at me.
He caught the mosquito.
He caught the flea.
He caught the minnow.
But he didn't catch me.
Si Kura-Kura Kecil (Natasha Hudson)
Ada seekor kura2 kecil
tinggal di dalam kotak
berenang di tepi tasik
memanjat di atas batu
dia cuba menggigit nyamuk
dia cuba mengigit kutu
dia cuba menggigit berudu
dia cuba menggigit aku
dia berjaya menagkap nyamuk
dia berjaya menangkap kutu
dia berjaya menangkap berudu
tetapi dia tidak berjaya menangkap aku
-----------------------------------
"Mentega kuning, jelly ungu, jam merah, roti hitam"
(Natasha Hudson)
Mentega kuning, jelly ungu, jam merah, roti hitam
ratakan tebal
katakan cepat
ratakan tebal
katakan cepat
sekarang ulang
sambil kamu makan
sekarang ulang
sambil kamu makan
janganlah bercakap
bila mulut kamu penuh
"Things We Like to Eat"
(Mary Ann Hoberman)
Yellow butter, purple jelly, red jam, black bread.
Spread it thick,
Say it quick.
Yellow butter, purple jelly, red jam, black bread
Spread it thicker,
Say it quicker.
Yellow butter, purple jelly, red jam, black bread
Now repeat it,
While you eat it.
Yellow butter, purple jelly, red jam, black bread
Donít talk
With your mouth full!
She might have gotten away with 1 plagiarised poem by saying that it was accidental but 3? Come on. Time to own up.
shut the fuck up hodoh
satu kemenangan buat kita semua bila "random" anonymasses leave illiterate comments.
blog ini sungguh educational. membuka mata.
bee... quickly buat poem pasal cantalopes tu...
hahaha baru sekejap tinggal macam ni jadinya. ingin nak jumpa mr/ms anon. knapa di tinggikan sangat yang bersalah. ok lah, jom sama2 biar dan tengok org kita jadi peniru... janji berjaya. malaysia boleh.
but...
natasha hudson, we just want an explanation, and an apologize if its true... but we are all willing to apologize if it can be proved otherwise. sorry if our ways are considered inappropriate.
saya ada dua cantalopes
saya suka makan cantalope
suami saya juga suka cantalope
jadi kita makan bersama-sama
macam mana translation of cantalope ah? i dunno la...
ok ke bee...??
seriously, being pregnant, langsung terus tak craving for kek cokelat.
uuuuuu.. what a posting by Ms Anonymous..OR shall I presume as Ms Natasha Hudson?! Hodoh?! lagi Hodoh kamu yg mem'plagiat' hasil karya org lain dah mengaku ianya hasil nukilan anda sendiri. Atau mungkin, ada tidak tau apa itu plagiat? Apakah mampu kamu berdalih sekiranya saya katakan disini bahawa ada di kalangan si hodoh2 di sini sudahpun membuat aduan kepada pihak2 tertentu utk mendapat penjelasan yg lebih sahih dari tuan empunya 'karya' yakni kamu..*grin*
Semoga berjaya dan harap2 utk PC yg seterusnya anda membuat pengakuan terbuka terhadap salahlaku yg anda lakukan ini Ms Hudson.
I welcome them anonymous comments. This way I could imagine they are from faraway lands with magical horns or hooves or faerie wings.
Stop picking on my sister. At least she writes her own songs and credit the original songwriters in her YouTube.
The truth is let out. Now we wait an official response from Ms Natasha herself.
In between the wait, why not try a hand at pulling a Natasha?
Translate your favorite English poem and blog it. Don't forget to credit the original poet :)
I'm sorry but I can't help mysf from being truthfully cynical to this lady aka Ms Gough Natasha...
I would like to make my personal suggestion for you to come out with your own self-motivation book to be entitled as "HOW TO DUMP A CORNMAN* IN 3 MONTHS AND CAUGHT A DATO' IN 3 DAYS" instead. It would be a whole lot better than mem'plagiat hasil karya org u see.
p/s: I cant help but laughing when this Hudson referred his ex-hubby as a CORNMAN (conman) *lol*
You must be from the forum. Welcome to my blog.
I don't mind her being blissfully happy with her young Dato'.
Only that I think she'll be happier when this issue is dealt with and the credits are given to the original poets :)
Wonder if she knows anything about ethics in writing. What? Translate it?? Owh.. Etika Penulisan.
Or I guess this is what she wants actually. For people keep talking about her. Tak kesah ler cakap yg baik atau buruk. Publisiti beb!
BTW, hi Jannah. :)
Love your writing!
I used to be in the same school with her for a while frankly speaking I dont think she had a poetic heart.So it was a direct translation from the original poet which is meaningless in Malay.
OMG.
Can somebody please, just sue her ass already!!!??
Hello. I found this post via a friend of a friend's journal. Words just get around, heh.
Anyways, I make my living out of drawing (currently a storyboard artist for a local animated series). Even though I don't write, as an artist, or at least someone who constantly churn out ideas visually with her own hands, I do understand how frustrating plagiarism is. It's something that will inadvertently pop out here and there in the world of arts, and there's nothing more infuriating than seeing someone making a profit out of someone else's hard work.
It's thievery, pure and simple. There are laws made to protect a person's work and people fighting to have protection over their works simply because of matters like this: that someone can simply take/ modify another person's work and claim as claim it as their own.
It's wrong, simply WRONG. Perhaps a certain someone needs to be more aware of copyright law and not rob others of their rightful works and IP.
I'll link up this entry in my blog to share the love, if you don't mind :)
oow!!!blog ini sgt bagus+intelektual+mendidik..hehe.
can i link your blog in my blog? tq
She has either got very big balls or thinks most of us are dumb. Plagiarism sucks. It sucks big time.
a serious allegation with harsh consequences :P
"Search for 'natasha hudson' in 'Title' returned no result. "
i tried to search for the book on the times page, but it seems like it's been removed.
hik hik..it's totally absurd if she still confessing the ideas were hers..stewpid...
Look at those 3 poems, obviously
shown translations were done 'sebijik-sebijik'..hik hik hik
Jannah,
my comment might be basi but CAYALAH!!!
plus..what's with "tanpanama" tu..ade share ker dlm buku tuh??
Ahahaha..kot ye pun nak meniru..pandai2 la cover, ni tak, sejibik2. Sgt 'pandai berlakon' ye Pn. Natasha ni.
Nmpknye polls yg mengatakan rakyat Malaysia kurang membaca dah silap ;)
p/s: thanks for the exposure.
nice job jannah!
I think the publishers for Roger McGough should take legal actions on Natasha Hudson. Plagiarism is a very BIG offense.
Don't feel upset Natasha, we all need to be educated in an educational way.
OH! and 'si kura kura kecil' is believed to be taken from BARNEY! Oi, surrender je lah!
The worst part is not the unforgivable plagiarism. But rather her meaningless direct translation. The original version was a great parody, presented in the simplest but most elegant way. Natasha simply murdered it. We could have been more sympathetic had she plagiarised it in a cleverer manner!
Ms. Natsha, this is how it should be written in Malay:
Aku inginkan satu nyawa
engkau mahukan satu lagi
kita tak dapat keinginan sendiri
lalu kita saling berbunuhan.
Of course you can’t retain the word ‘kek’ because cake (as opposed to western culture, the British especially) is a meaningless metaphor as far as Malaysian culture is concerned. If anything, it only exposes your filthy act.
Natsha is a living proof that beauty and brain can't (in most cases) co-exist. Sad. Really.
Kalau ye pun, the least she could have done was understand the context, then translate it in more proper inappropriate words. I mean, if you're gonna plagiarize, at least look as if you're trying to make it yours. So that you can defend yourself later? duh!
Its like eating a forbidden chocolate cake, with the cream all smudged on your lips, and when you get caught, you deny it without even bothering to wipe the cream. dude. kalau nak buat jahat,buatlah to the fullest ye. janganlah halfway. sungguh tidak interesting baca direct translation. sangat tidak bermakna. defeating the whole purpose of poetry. aduh.
plagiarize pun tak pandai.. think to plagiarize is easy? it needs good skills to do it, so you won't get caught :P
kite selalu dengar pepatah HOLLYWOOD never come something original,(ke ape.sorry lupa!)
tapi nampaknya penyakit "tak ori tu dah merebak ke malaysia"...
lucky you are not a blond chick,sis.
ur a fraud. ur embarassing to the scene! go away! sink away! we obviously dont need you.
A bimbo should stay as a bimbo.
The problem is why the publisher didn't do any fact checking at all to see if there's anything similar to it? Isn't it the procedure before you publish anything...
saya suka makana kek rimba hitam yang dijual di resepi rahsia!
dunia penerbitan di Malaysia jelas kini lebih berunsur keuntungan semata2. jika dulu orang menulis kerna cintakan penulisan, kini lagi ramai yang menulis untuk mencari gah.
mungkin dia terlupa... poem sekecil itu bukan hanya dia seorang pernah membacanya.
Check out a bit of prose I wrote in my younger days:
Kambing, kambing, kau ada bulu?
Ada, ada, tiga guni penuh.
Satu untuk bapak,
satu untuk ibu,
satu lagi untuk budak,
rumahnya di sinun.
Aduhai Natasha! Lempar batu sembunyi tangan. Sepandai-pandai tupai melompat, akhirnya ke tanah jua.
Dan kerana nila yang setitik, rosak susu sebelanga.
p/s Can you understand these? Huh!
OMG, Natasha's reply to your post is the stupidest reply yang paling tak relevant that I've ever read anywhere in blogland. Did she really graduate from the University of Chicago? Cuz from the way she wrote is looked as if she never graduated from anywhere!
ROFL. This was an absolutely hilarious read :P
I wonder if she fantasised her whole 'childhood'?
hye there,
i'm just a lil bit confused with all this natasha hudson issues.
so whats the outcome after all?
i'm currently abroad and i'm not quite sure on whats happening back there in Msia.
hoping for an update.
thank you.
P/s:could we Malaysians be a wee bit more polite with words?i mean concerning some of the comments above.
there's always a way to settle problems,without having to use harsh words.
just my concern though.
cheers.
whats next for here? a children book? oo wait..she might as well translate Madonna's children book..
natasha might have the look..but with a peanut size brain...
Hi to owner of blog. I have been following this issue and was wondering whether or not u guys have wrote to publishers and authors of original poems. Also wondering whether you have written to newspapers. I do not have anything against Natasha Hudson. In fact from what I've heard she is a really nice person. However, I do not condone plagiarism and am really disappointed by what she has done. I would like it if Mrs Hudson could find some humility in her to apologize to the Malaysian public whom she has not so cleverly deceived.
I came across this post lambat lah. i heard abt the plagiarism but tau cmtu je la. x jumpe buku tu. poems can be nonsense but u can still find something out of it. ms hudson's work doesn't make any sense at all so it can't possibly come from her teenage years (duh. teenagers tau tulis poem cintan cintun/rebellious-suicidal-emo type je slalunye. cz that's how they feel at that age)
Cake by Roger McGough:
i wanted one life
you wanted another
we couldn't have our cake
so we ate each other.
Hudson's Kek Coklat:
Saya mahu satu kehidupan,
Kamu mahu sesuatu yang lain,
Kita tidak dapat makan kek coklat,
Jadi kita makan sesama diri.
Rem's translation of Cake:
Aku inginkan satu nyawa
engkau mahukan satu lagi
kita tak dapat keinginan sendiri
lalu kita saling berbunuhan.
Quoting Jannah's comment:
Siberkop,
Makan sesama sendiri. Apakah maksud bait ini? Seorang yang horny akan berkata, Huyyoo. Jom. Jom. Now baby!
If taken literally it could mean cannibalism?
I come up with this mish-mash (utk jiwa horny):
Aku inginkan satu nyawa
engkau mahukan satu lagi
kita tak dapat keinginan sendiri
lalu kita 'makan' sesama sendiri
kita sama-sama puas *
* jgn pakai protection. boleh tambah nyawa satu lagi utk puaskan keinginan (nak nyawa lagi satu) dengan puaskan keinginan ('makan'). hehe...
"org macam kamu lah yg tak reti nak memberi peluang pada bangsa sendri. u own a VERY GREAT name, but y u have to make such fuss bout tis, she were like YOUNG when she first did all those. TLG la. menjatuhkan org di dunia, tak same ngan ape yg kite dpt di akhirat.. nawaitu tu masing2. GOD, get a life. write smtg more YOU, not allegates others."
inilah bangsa melayu,
hanya tahu tolong melayu,
dijunjung kebaikan,
dijunjung lah juga keburukan,
bagaimana melayu mahu maju,
mengagungkan benda yang tak perlu,
She is the one who is an embarassment to Orang Melayu by doing this. It's like telling people that our Malaysians are too stupid to come up with their own poems that they have to resort to plagiarism.
Really, has any action been taken to shed some light on this issue? I agree it is a serious allegation and whether or not it is true, should be determined in the best legal way possible.
(From UK), My guess is perhaps this book was written by a ghost writer?
Who then got lazy, as someone said, and figured no-one would notice. Wikipedia says the book is still on sale.
to the other anonymous who wrote...
"org macam kamu lah yg tak reti nak memberi peluang pada bangsa sendri. u own a VERY GREAT name, but y u have to make such fuss bout tis, she were like YOUNG when she first did all those. TLG la. menjatuhkan org di dunia, tak same ngan ape yg kite dpt di akhirat.. nawaitu tu masing2. GOD, get a life. write smtg more YOU, not allegates others."
inilah bangsa melayu,
hanya tahu tolong melayu,
dijunjung kebaikan,
dijunjung lah juga keburukan,
bagaimana melayu mahu maju,
mengagungkan benda yang tak perlu"
Let me tell you something this is not abt bringing people down. This is a matter of principle. Do you not know that plagiarism is a big deal not just in Malaysia but most of the developed world??? People can get fired or sued because of this and you still think this is no big deal. I'll take it you either don't go to college or you slept your way through it if you do.
Who is bringing his/her own race down if not for Natasha Hudson herself? Feel sorry for her that she took us as idiots who don't know anything.
One tip for Natasha: Now that she's married to a rich man maybe now she can hire somebody smarter to plagiarize for her. Somebody that not only can translate but maybe also change one or few sentences considering she is incapable of doing the last part.
Yeah, this is not about menjatuhkan wateva..i've had my work plagiarized before, n believe me..it SUCKSSS!to natasha,if ou cant write,just DONT!as simple as that..as for your 'coincidental' comment,its just hillarious..thanks for d joke,haha!
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